I copy pasted the exact argument which I had with a commie. I warn you, it might be painful to read!
It started with this question: Is death a preferable alternative to communism?
I explained death is a result of communism. In the name of equality, everybody will be equally dead at the end. Then of course, a commie found me and started commenting.
First, he replied with a picture with the deaths of God knows who, claiming, not only the commies are killing people.
Then I said:
Nobody said that. But numbers matters.
Yet somehow the 9.1 million people who die every year from hunger in capitalist utopias doesn’t.
Where is exactly those capitalist utopias, what you are talking about? And how many is NOT dying because of capitalism? And how many BORN because of capitalism? Because their parents had the money and the environment to make kinds, including you? Because they had the money to rise them?
I suggest you to practice gratitude. It helps.
How many are not dying because of communism? Life expectancy doubled in the USSR and China and increased by 20 years in Cuba. The USSR by its end had a population of 293 million, China today 1.386 billion, Cuba 11.48 million. That’s 1690.48 million people, or about 22% of the entire world’s population, that has had their life expectancy increased by at least 20 years.
(Note: we are now reached the asylum.)
China and Russia are currently based on capitalism. The leaders are commies, and they are up to fail. Just sayin’! What you wrote about the USSR is a f@cking propaganda myth. 60 million people are died AT LEAST in the USSR, soldiers not included. Same with Cuba just in lower scale. Why don’t just go and live there or in Venezuela? https://thefederalist.com/2017/06/02/life-communist-cuba-nothing-like-americans-heard/
Life expectancy in the USSR was 32.3 years before the Bolshevik revolution and 68.6 years by 1958. There is literally not one shred of evidence that “60 people are died AT LEAST in the USSR”, you literally just made that up.
It had continued to increase up to 69.6 years by 1986.
I will wait for your apology.
(Note: going deeply in the asylum. No one died. It is just a myth.)
You can wait forever.
First: quality matters a little bit more than how many people are living. You can born as a slave, it doesn’t mean it is worth living. Born in capitalism. Seems a little bit better.
Second: this data came from a commie country, which never said a true thing at all. Did you know registering deaths by starvation is now forbidden in Venezuela? This is will fix the statistics.
You can lie for yourself forever if you will.
Britain is a communist country… what? Nice to see you make up data and come up with extremely silly excuses to avoid having to apologize when proven wrong. Okay then. This is the typical responses I’d expect from a capitalist. You follow literally the same formula as every single one.
1. Lie. Lie. Lie.
2. Refuse to provide any evidence for your lies.
3. Call all evidence provided against you “fake news.”
Also, 78% of Russians people old enough to remember the Soviet Union want to return to the Soviet Union.
You can lie to yourself forever, but facts won’t change.
(Note: what is with Britain? Notice that his fact are USSR letters. Got it, right?)
Have I ever mentioned Britain? :D You were quiet funny if you were not a mass murdering supporter.
I lived in a communist country. My grandfather was shot by commies in the ’56 massacre, where commies are shoot at people country-wide, even with PLANES! We almost died. Almost!
Since then, the country turned into a socialist country, until one of the leaders said “we are constantly lying for everybody” and someone RECORDED it!
Here is the result:
Some of my friends was protesters, and some of my friends was the cops. Funny isn’t it? They almost died too, AGAIN!
Since then, the current system called DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM! Now the country is empty. No work force. No money. Everybody migrated to America, Germany, Sweden, Australia, and the UK, including my family members and me (Note: this was partly a lie from me. I stayed here almost alone. But a trap was setted). But who cares, since we have posters with the writing on it: Hungary is doing better!
You have NO IDEA what are you talking about and never going to be. You are just a spoiled child with no money, waiting for someone else to work for you, swimming in the pool of envy. And I am denying?
By the way, if you are stupid enough to think I am a Trump supporter, I have bad news.
(Note: obviously the 1. 2. 3. 4. point was related to protesting against Trump, who I basically hate)
>”Have I ever mentioned Britain? :D”
Yes you did. Where do you think the study I cited came from?
>”You were quiet funny if you were not a mass murdering supporter.”
Coming from the person who supports the most genocidal ideology in human history? LOL
>”I lived in a communist country.”
And I should care about anecdotes… why?
This was in 2006, long after the USSR and Hungary was not even close to socialist, let alone communist, at this time. Hungary is by all definitions of the word a capitalist nation and has been so since 1990.
>”Some of my friends was protesters, and some of my friends was the cops.”
(Note: The first video is released by the KGB (:D))
If all you are going to do is resort to anecdotes about protests because you know for a fact you have no data to support any of your lies, then I will just respond with anti-capitalist protests.
In fact, that second protest lead to a socialist government getting in power, which had lead to an enormous economic boom, democratization, and improvements in living standards.
>”Since then, the current system called DEMOCRATIC SOCIALISM!”
Hungary is a capitalist country. You clearly have no clue what socialism even is.
(Note: the abyss of the asylum is pitch black now.)
>”Now the country is empty. No work force. No money. Everybody migrated to America, Germany, Sweden, Australia, and the UK, including my family members and me.”
So you don’t even live in this country… interesting. Also, again, another lie (Note: trap triggered). There is a net migration of people entering Hungary, not leaving it. But what do I know? All I have is data and facts, while you have whatever you can make up on the spot.
>”You have NO IDEA what are you talking about and never going to be.”
You have not made a single claim here that wasn’t an outright lie that I could not simply debunk with data.
>”You are just a spoiled child with no money, waiting for someone else to work for you, swimming in the pool of envy. And I am denying?”
LOL you’re the one propping up an economic system for the lazy, for parasites who refuse to work. I am here advocating for democratic workers’ state, controlled by the workers, where everyone has to work or they starve, and there’s no parasites leeching off of the working class like you advocate for.
You are afraid of socialism because you don’t want to have to get a job.
(Note: the abyss of the asylum is now deeper than the pacific-ocean. It is basically a black-hole vacuum now.)***
>”By the way, if you are stupid enough to think I am a Trump supporter, I have bad news.”
Who even mentioned Trump?
“Yes you did. Where do you think the study I cited came from?”
Got it. I bet you living in an asylum (Note: I was unable to resist to not mentioning that any more). I also realised you are an attention-seeker.
“Coming from the person who supports the most genocidal ideology in human history?”
Looks like you wants to talking about the murdered american-indians. Seriously, what’s the correlation between colonization and trade? And of course, there comes the “saint savages until we came myth”. The american indians were blood-mouthed and cold blooded killers. They killed each others constantly, just like the blacks did before the white man came from them (exceptions are respected). Oh, but I don’t producing FACTS, right? You can believe in anything if you see it everywhere. I suggest you some common sense. It can help.
But why do you care, because if you searching, you can easily find the opposite opinion:
This is for you:
“I read an article today and I was shocked to read so many people believe Africans sold their own brothers and sisters into slavery just like that.”
Eat it. Where was the white slaves trough history? Oh, I know, we are all the slaves of the capitalism right?
“And I should care about anecdotes… why?”
No, you don’t. You care about what you will. I don’t have to prove anything for you. I just use you to understand the deep corruption of the human soul and that’s all. I writing articles about it, and you are kindly helping me. In fact, you are helping me to fight against communism. I shouldn't have said that but seriously, I don’t care. I already did my work.
“This was in 2006, long after the USSR and Hungary was not even close to socialist, let alone communist, at this time. Hungary is by all definitions of the word a capitalist nation and has been so since 1990.”
Democratic socialism by all definition is not socialism. There were no real communism by all definition. How do you define the totally ignorant and arrogant stupidity, which helps you to uphold your dream world? Some sense of reality isn’t hurts.
I kindly avoid answering to some of your nonsenses, because you claim that 25 years of experience in a commie country means nothing, but wikipedia have facts. And you constantly need data. You should be that kind of narcissistic person, who turn to be hysterical if someone mentioning his or her way below IQ from average, which is quiet obvious. I already feel sorry for the people around you. I suggest you to smile in the front of a mirror just to know that it is basically a snarl. Try to avoid projection, if you know even what it means.
“Also, again, another lie” (this is projection). “There is a net migration of people entering Hungary, not leaving it.”
“404 Not Found
The page you requested does not exist on Central Intelligence Agency.”
You may heard that a migrant horde is flooded Europe, right?
Besides, I wasn’t aware of the fact that the CIA is openly providing sources to the world through cheap and ugly websites. But you call this a “source”.
“LOL you’re the one propping up an economic system for the lazy, for parasites who refuse to work. I am here advocating for democratic workers’ state, controlled by the workers, where everyone has to work or they starve, and there’s no parasites leeching off of the working class like you advocate for.You are afraid of socialism because you don’t want to have to get a job.”
That’s how I make money. You are simply awesome.
Go to Venezuela please. No riches, no CEO’s, no parasites, no more thievery since 20 years. This is the place FOR YOU! I used to call this new kind of demented people as “Venezuelan deniers”. Congratulations, you are one of them!
You are more than ridiculous.
>“Got it. I bet you living in an asylum. I also realised you are an attention-seeker.”
You claimed the British government is just a propaganda wing for the USSR. You are now just insulting me because you I pointed out this fact. I cited a study into life expectancy of the USSR that was released by the British government and you turned around and said it’s just communist propaganda.
>”Looks like you wants to talking about the murdered american-indians.”
The United States has never had a decade in its history where it hasn’t been involved in a genocide. It is involved in a genocide in Yemen right now.
(Note: shocked by the noble savages. Trying to find something else.)
And I’m done responding to you. You literally then go onto be an apologist for the Amerindian genocide and even slavery.
I’m not interested in talking to Nazis
Good for you. Me neither.**